How Julia Wolf Cast a Love Spell on Drake and John Summit

FRIDAY 1:07 PM APRIL 3, 2026 EAST VILLAGE

Don’t let the lyrics about throat slitting and Instagram aura farming fool you. Julia Wolf is more wholesome than you think. As we sat down surrounded by skulls, tarot cards, and cauldrons, she recounted how she spent the morning glued to her Nintendo Switch playing Pokopia, which she described as a cross between Animal Crossing and Pokémon. Wolf first achieved virality with her song “In My Room,” cultivating a solid fanbase of Twi-hards who would go on to use her track in their TikTok edits of the film. As her career continued to grow, her haunting vocals secured her position as the premier voice of the ghost of girlfriends past on EDM tracks with John Summit and rap bangers with Drake. On April 7, Wolf announced her The Deep End world tour, set to commence in the place where it all began — Forks, Washington. But before she got on the road, I had a few questions for the world’s number one Twilight enthusiast. A week after she moved to New York, I met up with Wolf at Hekate Café & Elixir Lounge for a witchy conversation about casting love spells, leaving Los Angeles, and why her grudges last a lifetime. 

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ARY RUSSELL: I was watching your Zach Sang interview and you said you left LA because you wanted to be somewhere quieter, so naturally you moved to New York City. [Laughs] What was the reasoning behind that?

JULIA WOLF: We went to Portland [Oregon] in between my two tours thinking that’s where we were going to move because I love the Twilight of it all. But when we got there, it felt like I would be retiring too early. So I moved to Queens, which feels like the quietest neighborhood I could have chosen. 

RUSSELL: What have been some differences you’ve already found between LA and New York?

WOLF: Here, I can leave the house no makeup, sweatpants, and not feel any pressure about running into someone or having to look good. Whereas in LA, I was constantly comparing myself to every beautiful woman who was walking around. It was mentally exhausting. 

RUSSELL: As you get bigger, it’ll be easier to stay more anonymous in New York. I was watching your apartment vlog and it’s so cute because, with pop stars, you see them doing YouTube for some sort of promotion, not an intimate moving vlog. How are you balancing having that closeness with fans while also maintaining that mystique as a pop star and prioritizing your mental health?

WOLF: It’s unfortunate, but I can’t engage in the comments anymore. I’m too sensitive. So even if something’s a little negative, it’ll stick with me for days. That’s why I want to do YouTube and do funny TikToks, to just show personality and that this is a normal chick. But I do need a little bit of my mystique. Aura farming right now.

RUSSELL: I loved your album Pressure.

WOLF: Thank you.

RUSSELL: I also really connected with the lyrical themes about love and devotion. Do you get obsessed with love?

WOLF: A part of it is that I wasn’t finding any relationships whatsoever. I was ghosted, rejected for six, seven years. Nothing was landing. So not only does that absolutely deteriorate my self-esteem but, when I do start these budding things with people, I latch on so hard because I just desperately–

RUSSELL: Don’t know when you’re going to get it again?

WOLF: It feels so fleeting. I have always been that way. I mean, even with the one that worked out now, it’s very consuming and sometimes brings out the worst in me.

RUSSELL: How long does it take you to get over someone?

WOLF: My gosh, it depends. What I would do is just start talking to someone else. I’m like, “I can’t get over this until I realize that other people exist.” 

RUSSELL: Are there things that you do to get the ball rolling on closure?

WOLF: I would probably say my sister took the brunt of it, and just yapping.

RUSSELL: What are sisters for?

WOLF: I have to talk it out. Because the more that I hold it in, it does drive me insane. Just hearing someone else’s perspective on it snaps me out of it a little bit. We’re dissecting it together.

RUSSELL: You’ve collaborated across many genres with John Summit, Drake, and more. How do you know that a beat is going to work with your lyricism and your voice? 

WOLF: With all of those collabs with people, they’ve really allowed me to take the reins on it and build around whatever I create, which has been super cool that they trust me in that way. They don’t want me to fit into their world, but rather have the two come together. 

RUSSELL: Does it give you a level of confidence as an artist that someone like Drake is like, “I trust you?”

WOLF: Completely. It could not be more validating. We were freaking out about that. This road is extremely discouraging, so when things like that happen it feels good.

RUSSELL: Who’s on your Mount Rushmore of sad girl musicians?

WOLF: Phoebe Bridgers, there is no one better to me. Phoebe and Ethel Cain are my top. I love Soccer Mommy, as well. I only listen to the same records over and over. It’s really bad.

RUSSELL: On your album, you have a big connection to Twilight and Jennifer’s Body. Which is interesting because, when those movies came out, they were critically panned but now have become cult classics. Are you someone that likes the idea of second chances? 

WOLF: Unfortunately, because of how sensitive I am, I can also be very reactive. So if I even get a tinge of someone not feeling it, I am quick to burn the bridge. I would hope that people treat me the way I’ve treated them, so I don’t really love handing out second chances if I’ve been wronged. Why wouldn’t it happen again? 

RUSSELL: So your grudges last a lifetime.

WOLF: Forever. It’s hard to rebuild the bridge once it’s been destroyed. 

RUSSELL: “In My Room” is the song that defined the TikTok edits of 2025. Do you have any favorite TikToks that have used the song? 

WOLF: I really love when people replace my lyrics with their own lyrics. It’ll be like, “I stalk myself on Pornhub just to see what you’ll find.” Those are funny. 

RUSSELL: The ones that I really like are when it’s the acoustic version. That difference between how it sounds sonically perfectly captures what it means to change, for better or worse.

WOLF: Do you know Summer House?

RUSSELL: I don’t watch the show, but within the past three days I’ve gotten all the tea from everyone around me. Have you been seeing Summer House edits?

WOLF: Yes. I’m a diehard Summer House girl. They did an edit with that whole situation and that one honestly made me very sad for Ciara [Miller].

RUSSELL: With Twilight, who’s the character that resonates with you the most?

WOLF: It’s Bella. That’s why I fell in love with Twilight in the first place. Not for Edward, but more so for this girl who’s in high school, super shy. Twilight came out when I was in eighth grade and experiencing those same things where I could not even make eye contact. I saw what happened to her and I really wanted that to happen to me one day. 

RUSSELL: I definitely relate to Bella because I always resonate with this idea of devotion to the point of detriment. 

WOLF: Me too.

RUSSELL: In “In My Room”, my favorite lyric is “I stalk myself on the internet just to see what you’ll find.” When you look at your own Instagram, what do you see?

WOLF: Oh my gosh, that’s a good question. I see someone who is not trying too hard to impress anyone, just being herself in an honest, sometimes silly way.

RUSSELL: In “Girls,” the lyric that I also really loved was, “I’m on the wrong side of 30” because it really touches on this fear of aging and that you’re running out of time. Do you wish that success had happened earlier for you? Do you think that you would have been able to handle this if this happened when you were younger?

WOLF: I don’t think so. I think I would be cringed out. And who’s to say I won’t be 10 years from now? But I don’t believe that I knew myself well enough and was exposed to enough artists to feel inspired by. 

RUSSELL: By the time this will be out, you will have announced your tour. What city are you most excited for?

WOLF: It has to be New York. I grew up coming to shows here. So, to go from audience member to stage here will always impact me more.

RUSSELL: Do you have any pre-show rituals to get your head in the game?

WOLF: Obviously, I do my vocal warmups and I have my tea with honey. They say that if you stir your coffee with intentions in the morning clockwise, water can hold your intentions. I was doing that religiously every day last tour. 

RUSSELL: Are you someone that’s a spiritual person in that regard?

WOLF: I definitely dabble in the witchcraft of it all and I be casting spells in my room because I wholeheartedly believe that it did impact my life once I started getting into that stuff. 

RUSSELL: Have you ever cast a love spell?

WOLF: Of course.

RUSSELL: Has it worked?

WOLF: Yes. That was the catalyst to making me a believer. I loved this one girl on YouTube and I noticed she had a subsection of witchcraft, so I tried one of them. Nothing beats your first spell because I had no doubt in my heart. I was just full of belief. I was under the moon, and then two months later I met the love of my life.

RUSSELL: You mentioned that you drink tea on tour. What’s on your rider when you’re on the road?

WOLF: We have tequila, beer, and Throat Coat tea. The guys want beef jerky so the whole room freaking smells like beef jerky. 

RUSSELL: You have to put an embargo. When you’re going to different cities on tour, what’s been the most interesting thing that you found? 

WOLF: We were lucky to do Europe this past time, but I did not expect to fall in love with Poland the way that I did. The Polish churches are so gothic inside — skulls, burgundy, just gorgeous color palettes. 

RUSSELL: You have to go to the catacombs when you’re in Paris.

WOLF: I know.

RUSSELL: Tour can be both physically and emotionally demanding. What type of things do you do to recover night after night when you’re pouring your heart out?

WOLF: I have my cozy shows that I watch on the bus. This last tour was Schitt’s Creek. It is so funny, I didn’t realize. My mother is Moira from that show.

RUSSELL: You have Bee Blackwell opening up for you after you opened up for Machine Gun Kelly. What things did you learn from that experience you could potentially pass on to her?

WOLF: MGK was so adamant that I gain his fans. And it’s just about showing that she and I have a good relationship too. As long as I’m putting the light on her as well, that will be really helpful. I would tell her to have a good time and not get too in your head about it if people aren’t looking right at you.

RUSSELL: I’ve discovered some of my favorite artists as openers. You’re planning to debut some new music while you’re on tour. How do you feel about seeing the raw live reactions of the audience as you’re singing something that they’ve never heard before?

WOLF: I love it. We’ve cultivated a very welcoming and supportive fan base, so anytime I’m playing something new,  you could hear a pin drop. Everyone is just there to embrace the new stuff, which I’m so grateful for. 

RUSSELL: How do you hope that Julia Wolf fans are going to dress for the concert?

WOLF: I love anything from the Elena Gilbert vibe, to my emo baddies. We have a song that could fit any vibe.

RUSSELL: Even with the John Summit collab, let’s get the rave girls in here.

WOLF: Bring it on. 

RUSSELL: What are you manifesting for this tour?

WOLF: Hopefully that people come. [Laughs] And we just make some core memories. Last tour, we had some proposals happening.

RUSSELL: Do you have favorite signs that fans bring?

WOLF: Anything Twilight. I already have so much Twilight merch, but the amount of gifts is so cute. Sometimes they’ll just put the book in the air. 

RUSSELL: How many times have you read the series and seen the movies?

WOLF: You don’t want to know. I have lost track. 15 times? This is also over the course of 20 years we’re talking about. I can’t tell you. It’s infinite.

RUSSELL: But never enough?

WOLF: Never enough.