
MARK AND JAY DUPLASS
Jay and Mark Duplass's studio debut, Cyrus (in theaters today), furthers the brand of immediate and sometimes uncaged hyperrealism the brothers demonstrated in indie features like The Puffy Chair and Baghead. For the first time, the brothers have made a movie featuring faces familiar to audiences outside the New York-based mumblecore scene (stars include John C. Reilly, Jonah Hill, Marisa Tomei, and Catherine Keener); however the pair has maintained their signature style of zooms, raw tension, and sudden mayhem. Though the Duplassian approach to filmmaking is heavy on improvisation, it manages to avoid the stooging antics of comedy. Candid and clumsy portrayals of relationships, moments of vulnerability, anger, and affection are private instead of parodied. In Cyrus, the story of a mother, her son, and her boyfriend, the discomfort of new relationships—their ugly truths and paranoia–and the anxiety of nearness result in both laughter and recognition.
I spoke to Mark and Jay about the dueling (in both plot and emotion) nature of their film, and how they transitioned from low-budget documentary style–one person on boom, one person on camera–to studio crews.
DURGA CHEW-BOSE: How was the transition into your first studio film? I read that at one of your first meetings, there were 12 people in the meeting room and that was already double the crew on your previous movies. For Cyrus you had close to 80 people working on the film, right? Did that make the process less intimate?
MARK DUPLASS: You know it was weird; what we did was that we made sure every set was a closed set. On normal movie sets they cut and then everyone rushes in and touches up the makeup, fixes the hair, fixes the props. That happened on our first day and we were like, "Whoa! We got to fix this." We had a first assistant director, this woman named Cas Donovan who's really become a sister to us, who had worked in the big movie world and really appreciated our little movies, and knew exactly how to keep us in that little, sweet and intimate pocket. So when we were shooting the scenes, it was Jay on camera, another cameraman, a boom operator, and that was it. I would be back at the monitors. At the end of the day it was a big Fox Searchlight movie but we were all in a house on the East Side of LA shooting close-ups of people and it was like, "Wow, this is one of our movies."
JAY DUPLASS: Just with better food.
M. DUPLASS: Yeah, and we didn't have to hang the lights ourselves, so that was cool.
CHEW-BOSE: You've said that, in your earlier years, you made a lot of films you thought you should be making, and now you've found your niche so to speak: relationship films. Does that come the most immediately to you?
J. DUPLASS: It's what Mark and I have always been obsessed with. When we were kids and everyone was obsessed with Star Wars, we were watching Kramer vs. Kramer. We were watching these weird ass relationship movies. You know these really heavy-hitting dramas. I don't know what it is, but just in our private conversation, that's what we talk about. We'll see someone in public and they're not really aware of what they're doing, but there's something really intensely emotional going on and usually hilarious at the same time...
M. DUPLASS: It might just be the way that they're dealing with their cell phone but we're just very in tune with those little things and I don't know why we are.
J. DUPLASS: It's what we love. And once we started putting those kinds of things on film, people started responding. It's like a channel opened when we started writing like that. It came straight through us and went to the audience.
CHEW-BOSE: Did you ever really imagine making a studio film like this?
J.DUPLASS: It was always vaguely out there, but it was nothing in the realm of what we would have expected or even dared to think about because our mentality with our short films, and even with features, was, "Oh God, please don't let it suck." Literally, that's where we were. "Oh God, please help us make a movie that moves in a line." In some ways that hasn't changed; we were terrified in editorial that it wasn't going to be really special or it wasn't going to live up to our expectations of what we want to be doing. Everything kind of feels like a surprise and honestly, we feel really lucky.
CHEW-BOSE: How naturally did your method work with actors who've often done only bigger budget projects?
M.DUPLASS: It was pretty seamless in terms of getting the movie and the process on its feet. By scene one, take one, it was working already. But what we did discover through the process was that, as opposed to working with our friends who are actors, who we've known for years and who have full trust in us as human beings, these are people who've made a lot of movies, and a lot of those movies have not turned out how they would have liked.
J.DUPLASS: They have well-founded fears.
M.DUPLASS: I think they discovered in a lot of scenes that our process can be a lot of fun, but also really challenging and sometimes you feel like you're out to sea. Jay and I have discovered that that's a good thing for our movies because it provides an uncertainty and keeps people on their toes including us, to try and find something beautiful instead of just executing the lines you wrote and walking away. On a good day, that's a lovely process, but on a challenging day it can be a little fear-inducing in some of the actors.
CHEW-BOSE: Because they want to be lead?
M.DUPLASS: Yeah, sometimes they just need us to lead them a little more. And the truth is that we don't lead until the moment hits. When the moment hits then we turn into maniacs and we turn more into Scorsese and the Coen brothers. But until that great moment hits, we won't be that captain of the ship.
CHEW-BOSE: So your form of storytelling is largely instinctive?
M.DUPLASS: Yes, it's very, very instinctive.
CHEW-BOSE: I was hoping you guys could speak to what comes after mumblecore films, and although your movies are far more plot-oriented, I was curious as to what you think is next? Will it be a return to more family-oriented dramas as opposed to scenarios concerning small groups of friends? How do you think it's going to evolve?
M.DUPLASS: Well mumblecore people might have some babies... then there will be all kinds of new things to talk about! We got babies, we changed...
J.DUPLASS: Yeah, but we're still in the phase where we can't laugh about it that much. We're still getting our asses whooped by little girls who weigh less than twenty pounds.
CHEW-BOSE: That sort of is the comedy and tragedy in most of your films, no?
M.DUPLASS: Absolutely, absolutely.
J.DUPLASS: Yeah it is, we just need a year to get distance from it. We're in the crying part right now.
M.DUPLASS: It's interesting though, in terms of mumblecore, I'm not sure where it will go. It must just be done?
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