Interview

GO: I haven't really met Bob Dylan.

KM: I've met Bob Dylan. We did one of those nonhandshake handshakes. I was with all guys, and he shook hands with all of them, and then they said, "And this is Kate," and I put my hand out, and he didn't put his out. And then I took my hand away, and he put his out. It was one of those. We finally did shake. And then I fainted!

GO: From meeting Bob Dylan? What a fan!

KM: Well, I met Frank Sinatra and Bob Dylan in the space of 15 minutes. Frank Sinatra kissed me on the lips.

GO: That's why they called him the Chairman of the Board.

KM: He kissed me on the lips. And then he gave me a filterless cigarette. And then I met Bob Dylan. I came off all lightheaded and had to go sit on his dressing-room steps.

GO: I would faint if I smoked a Camel.

KM: Maybe it was the cigarette and nothing to do with the legends.

GO: So did Frank still have all his marbles?

KM: Oh, definitely. There was still a twinkle in his blue eyes. Yeah, major. I was with Johnny [Depp] at the time. And Frank came over to me and got all
of his security to close in so Johnny couldn't get to me. I was sitting down having a cigarette, and he just walked in the room, and he spotted me and made a beeline to me. So we were encircled by security in this backstage area, and he's like, "How are you doing, little
lady?" And I said, "Happy birthday, Frank!" and I went to shake his hand, and he just lunged for me.

GO: Wow.

KM: I know. And then I smoked the cigarette and went all light-headed. He was fabulous. It was his 80th-birthday party in L.A.

GO: Did Frank sing to you? "Strangers in the Night"?

KM: No, he just did his concert. He was so great.

GO: Fainting was exactly the thing to do after you'd been kissed by Frank. You always know what to do, Kate. You must be this repository of wisdom. Like how to pack for a trip or how to avoid the person in the next seat in first class. Yeah, if you have to fly commercial, how do you handle that?

KM: It's all about the blanket. Blanket, pillow, and red wine. You should always be asleep on a plane.

GO: You're always traveling. You must be a genius at packing.

KM: No. It's awful. I had this amazing P.A., and we used to pack together, and she got so used to what
I wanted to pack that she got to the point where she would just do it all-and perfectly. Now she's away having a baby, and I have completely forgotten how to do it. It's so weird. I just organize by bags of specific things. Bags of knickers, bags of bikinis, bags of dresses. So it is contained and organized,
but my suitcase is a mess if I do it myself.

GO: But being a fashion freak, how do you contain your-

KM: I am not a fashion freak!

GO: Yes, you are.

KM: No, I'm not at all. I hardly ever-

GO: Okay, you're a clothes person-

KM: Yeah, I like clothes, but I hardly ever go shopping. Hardly ever!

GO: How do you get your clothes then?

KM: Well, I just come across them

GO: [laughs] Yeah, my wife comes across them too.

KM: If I see a secondhand shop, I'll go in. But I don't, like, traipse down Bond Street.

GO: I know, but I also know you have an incredible wardrobe. Don't you have a lot of stuff?

KM: I don't have as much as you probably think.

GO: I just sort of assumed you're like my wife. She has great clothes that she wears, but she's also a collector. I am trying to buy another apartment in my building so there will be enough room for me. There are stacks of clothes.

KM: Well, I edit. I edit things down, and I've got a massive dressing room in the country, and so all the things I'm not going to wear but don't want to get rid of go there. And all the stuff I want to get rid of goes to Oxfam.

GO: So you'll wear it again in 10 years?

KM: Or my daughter will wear it. When she's 16. All those Pucci numbers and things that I wore when I was 17 that I won't really wear. But I'm saving them for her really. That's my blackmail. "Don't eat your dinner, and you won't get my clothes. You won't grow, and you won't get into my clothes." Now she's a fashion freak.

GO: How old is she?

KM: She's almost 6.

GO: She would probably like my kid. He's turning 8. He's a real ladies' man.

KM: She likes older boys. Have you got a picture? [kid pictures . . . oohing and aahing] He has olive skin!

GO: My son Oscar announced the other day that he was getting married to his girlfriend from school. He's wearing a ring now. I said, "So are you going to move in together?" And he said, "Why would we do that?" He's so smart.

KM: Lila says she's going to get married three times. She's going to have three husbands, and she knows exactly who they are. They say the funniest things. Never a dull moment!

GO: Here's a picture of Oscar in Jamaica at Golden-Eye [Resort].

KM: Oh, I'm going there.

GO: I was just there. I saw the tree you planted.

KM: I saw your tree the last time I was there! It's really big.

GO: Nice to be in the same forest with you, Kate.

KM: Did you see River Phoenix's tree? It's huge!

GO: I think you must have been there with Johnny Depp. His tree wasn't doing so well.

KM: I took Johnny there!

GO: What do you do for jet lag?

KM: I stay up. Actually, I never used to have it. I get it a bit more now, but I just carry on. I just stay up.

GO: And how do you stay the same size?

KM: I don't know. That's genetic I think. It's handy. Going to the gym wouldn't be on my list of favorite things to do.

GO: Do you have gaydar, Kate?

KM: No.

GO: The last time I was with you, you were going on about your theory about a famous movie star.

KM: Yeah, I know. Then when I got home I texted all these men I know, asking if they thought he was gay. I got so many responses! Like, two-page responses!